Gold Discussion for Investors and Market Analysts

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 23:50
TYoung (I love people with a HEART...Jujube...ya got to love a guy who can judge humanity...) ID#317193:: Just like our friend...RJ.

Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 23:44
Jujube__A (His new words should be seen with his old) ID#252286:
Copyright © 1998 Jujube__A/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 03:22

farfel ( Thoughts... ) ID#340302:

The great thing about the fall of the Rand is, not so much the issue of its effects on the price of

gold, but rather the ultimate impoverishment of dickheads like PissPee who, when economic

hardship gets really intense down there, will probably have their assets and properties

expropriated by the failing SA government. Deservedly so...for being abject idiots!

Speaking of expropriation, since Moronator is such a fawning disciple of Herr-ess Witte and her

happy band of Royal Oak Robbers ( since, in his mind, she represents the apotheosis of pure

capitalism...and he admires scoundrels who have the balls to change the rules ) , then he too

should be delighted when his new government comes along someday and changes the rules,

expropriating all his ( putatively ) hard-earned assets. Bound to happen since, he too, is living in

the midst of a collapsing economy.

And what about James...great admirer of intellect...or should I say, imbibing... prone to heavy

indulgences in the old boozola when his wife is away ( who can blame her? ) , happily liquoring

himself up into a state of abject incoherence.

What does it all mean?

It means, back off f**kheads, or I will rip your blathering nonsense into shreds ( and you along with

it ) in a manner that will make my friend RJ seem the epitome of cool composure.

Oh, thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 12:54

farfel ( @RETIRED DESERTER and PUSSBOYS... ) ID#340302:

RETIRED DESERTER...nice to see you join in the gang bang...befitting for a wimp like you who

professes to stand up for Jews but then runs and kisses the behind of JANES, a patently obvious

Jew hater.

PUSSBOYS...contributing your usual three lines of ghettoese mumbo jumbo. Go crawl back

under your rock, crackhead!

F*'s Report...

I don't care where gold goes...it's one big ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

I like the strong action on the DOW & NASDAQ....makes America even STRONGER so all the

rest of the countries of the world can rot and sink into the toilet they deserve.

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 14:23

farfel ( @LGiBBerish...who's contributed nothing to this forum? ) ID#340302:

Take a look in the mirror, coin dealer man! Pushing your worthless little silver coins while kissing

ass at Loral How well do you sharpen pencils for Mr. Schwartz? I hear you run and fetch a

mean glass of water, LGiBBerish.

Give me a break!

I imagine you must be at least 400 pounds of hot, foul wind.

When are they going to toss you out on your big, fat ass?

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 14:29

farfel ( @JerkTurkeyF**head.... I AM OUT OF GOLD COMPLETELY!! YES!!!! ) ID#340302:

Why would I own that miserable worthless crap anymore?

And have to continue posting on this forum...and listening to pedantic nihilists and preachifying

bores?

Enough already.

The DOW & the NASDAQ...that's where the party is. The higher they go, the better off

America...and the rest of the world can take a dump in a pig slop.

Screw gold.

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 14:46

farfel ( @LGiBBerish...my RJ impression? ) ID#340302:

I don't know what you're talking about?

RJ's OK by me.

Are you casting aspersions against your hero and Lord, RJ? God knows, you licked his butt often

enough.

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 15:27

farfel ( @PUSSBOYS...oh, you're getting there.... ) ID#340302:

...try writing just one or two more lines...and hey, you might just pass for literate.

Now go back and smoke some more crack.

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 16:29

farfel ( @RETIRED DESERTER...and you CAN KISS MY ASS... ) ID#340302:

...I DID NOT COME ON THIS FORUM, YOU LITTLE PUKEHEAD, TO BE A TARGET OF

CONSTANT INCESSANT ABUSE. AND YOU LITTLE SH*T HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE

BIGGEST ABUSERS.

NOW IF IT'S IN MY POWER, I WILL HUNT YOUR SENILE ASS DOWN EVERY TIME YOU

POST CRAP AGAINST ME. OR UNTIL BART REMOVES ME. WHICH HE CAN DO

WHENEVER THE HELL HE FEELS LIKE.

I DONT CARE IF YOU FOUGHT IN DICKSVILLE, DICKHEAD, IT DOES NOT PROVE YOUR

MANHOOD, IT JUST PROVES YOUR WRETCHED STUPIDITY AS FAR AS I AM

CONCERNED.

OK, you got it?

Thanks

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 19:38

farfel ( @SNOWBIRD...here's a little hint... ) ID#340302:

...call off all your mangy mutt buddies who keep attacking F* on a personal basis.

He CAN bite back ( far worse than anything seen here so far...you haven't even begun to see MY

COPY and PASTE yet ) .

Helpful hints: the name is NOT farfetched, fartful, farfelburger, farfelonious, etc.

More Helpful hints: don't mention or propagate theories about a Jew Boys Club on this forum. I

have a lot of friends who are Jews. We will get the Jewish Defence League to find out who you (

really ) are and deal with you.

Yet More Helpful Hints: don't kick people ( like goldbugs ) when they are down on a daily basis.

Yet Even More Helpful Hints: lay off the fascist all-American love it or leave it! attitudes, extolling

the virtues of Nirvana for America and the greater virtues of drinking piss for the rest of the world.

It infuriates ( some ) Americans.

Yet Even More and More Helpful Hints: end the great Farfel gangbang NOW!

Unlike Mr. Puetz, I will not disappear but will retaliate with even fuller force.

Finally, apologize, just as I have done in the past to all on this forum. A real apology ( not an

apology serving as merely a means to attack another poster a la LGiBBerish's deceitful tactics ) .

Until such apology is received I will post in the neo-fascist fashion which was so popularized by

RotJerk, LGiBBerish, PissPee, Moronator, Retired Deserter, Pussboys, etc. At least, until Bart

removes me.

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 19:41

farfel ( @CROSSBITCH...who the hell are you? ) ID#340302:

You don't even know me, dick-for-brains?

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 19:44

farfel ( @PUSSBOYS...ohmiGOd...back again? ) ID#340302:

You ran out of crack already.

I'm sorry. I don't have any to send you.

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 19:46

farfel ( @CROSSBITCH...you're probably JANES in drag... ) ID#340302:

..right?

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 19:50

farfel ( @CROSSBITCH...so you respect many of the posters here... ) ID#340302:

...but you obviously don't respect me, addressing me as Fasteriska.

So guess what, I don't respect you. Ergo, you can stick your head up your bunghole!

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 20:00

farfel ( @PUSSBOYS....oh, just go back to your ghetto... ) ID#340302:

...you'll be so much happier, moron. Don't forget your food stamps.

Thanks.

F*.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 20:12

farfel ( @SHELLER...re: Liberace or LGiBBerish or whatever he calls himself. ) ID#340302:

Now you're safe back home, having spent a full day running and fetching water for Mr. Schwartz.

Must be real tired after moving that fat ass of yours around Loral all day.

Time to get out all your grubby silver coins and count em all, right?

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 20:18

farfel ( @PUSSBOYS...so you're saying all Jews smell ) ID#340302:

Why don't you and Janes get together and burn down a synagogue?

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 20:10

Poorboys ( That Skunk Smell Is Always Around ) ID#227168:

Farhead �If you are a Jew then you must have been casterated, maybe they just cut off the wrong

parts? When

you do return to Kitco under another alias your smell will give you away --Pew

I just hope the Jewish Defence League finds out where you live, you little rotter, and then they

should castrate your crackhead ass.

Thanks.

Date: Mon Jun 29 1998 20:29

farfel ( @BULLY BEEF...I expect the plug to be pulled...... ) ID#340302:

...but I shall survive.

Tired of hearing about LGiBBerish's 400% return on stocks, the same boring story told over and

over again.

Tired of Pussboys three sentence incoherent posts dissing gold and various forum members, the

same old, same old.

Tired of PissPee lauding his brainy son, leaving us all to wonder how the son got all the smarts

and father was left with less than zero.

Tired of the usual Kitco Nazis constant name-calling, browbeating anybody who believes in the

yellow metals value.

The Nazis have won...not just the gold market but the entire country. False prosperity while the

Nazis raise the volume on their cheers.

THE TREND IS YOUR FRIEND, etc., etc.

It doesn't matter if I'm thrown of Kitco because I no longer give a damn about gold or silver or

anything so banal.

Thanks.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 23:17
TYoung (F*...don't rrrwreck the world....Jajube or whatever can't handle it...Take care) ID#317193:: Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:45
Rumpled (IT IS ME PIERRE!!!) ID#411233:: Red Neek, wie Sie sind. Es gewesen eine lange Zeit, da wir sprachen. Sind Sie Stille loving alle Frauen in Alaska? Ich denke, dab Gold nicht viel mehr fallt, bevor es anfangt, oben wieder zu gehen. Ich hoffe so. Gesprach zu Ihnen bald.

HAPPY GOLDEN AND SILVERS
PIERRE.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:43
jonesy (@ Tom Young, re. Gold, Silver, Plat) ID#251166:
-: I'm not seeing a PM selling climax such as many others have spoken of. I chart the three metals -- gold, silver, platinum ( not palladium ) -- weighted, as if they were a single metal. As of the middle of last month, right before the JY intervention, the three metals hit their lowest low in the past two years. ( Could be much longer since they've been this low; I just haven't keystroked the data going back before 1996. ) The three metals bottomed June 15 and are now rising to their 100-day moving average, which, I believe, marks resistance. That's where silver, leading the charge out of the pit, reversed July 24. Looks like we've got a dip ahead of us, but hardly the catastrophic house-sized sinkhole seen by some others. In other words, I think we've already *had* the selling climax.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:31
Rumpled (WUD I MISSED--IT IS ME PIERRE!!!) ID#411233:: Bon Jour mon chums on da Kitco. Pierre him he dranks two much shin
an den he lands on a coma for2 munth! Wen i wakes I'm not to know my
names, so dey calls me Rumpled. I'm say dats ok buy me.

I'm see Gusto here, mais wears all de udders-Swamp Boy-Red Neek-
Grizz? Dats all fors now, I'm see nurse Ratchett coming!

HAPPY GOLDEN AND SILVERS
SALUT MON CHUMS
PIERRE.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:25
TYoung (Jujube...just what i needed...ANOTHER mother...) ID#317193:: as you wish...SIR

Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:23
Jujube__A (TYoung) ID#252286:

By your own admission you drink when you post. I remember three times you apologized the next morning to all of us because you drank too much and were embarrassed about what you wrote the night before. Lay off RJ. farfel is the loon. The last month was very nice on kitco and now this guy has to come back and wreck it.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:22
farfel (@ALL...I must go to a store now before it closes....) ID#341227:: ...AUgust is just beginning.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:18
farfel (@TYoung...Don't worry, RJ will return...) ID#341227:: ...Kitco is addictive. We storm out of here...we're banished...but we always come back.

Too many interesting personalities ( RJ included ) ...too many amazing intellects...too much amazing info....

We're addicts and we're hooked.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:18
TYoung (F*.. OK...I'm off to the children...Take care of yourself...) ID#317193:: Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:16
Gusto Oro (Civilization at last!) ID#430260:: Months lost in this postless maze and I've finally found human beings! You are from planet earth, aren't you? --AG

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:16
farfel (TYoung...I know you have good intentions...) ID#341227:: ...however, I do not feel any imperative to return to K-1.

I am quite content to post here.

Bart is trying to make both K-1 and K-2 work. So, hopefully, different people will move back and forth between both forums, thereby ensuring less crowding of available bandwidth.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:14
TYoung (F*...RJ is taking his ball and going home to mother on K-1) ID#317193:: Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:13
RJ (..... Hey Cohen .....) ID#411259:: Its all yours

Roll in it

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:10
farfel (@RJ...hello, RJ, welcome to K-2....) ID#341227:: ...land of the banished lunatics.

You should fit in quite nicely here.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:07
farfel (@TYoung...June 29th beyond the line?) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: I suppose so...but it did succeed in various ways. Implied lunacy has a great way of scaring people. Scaring people can get them to shut down their attacks.

I simply tired of the same group of people addressing me in ad hominem fashion all the time rather than addressing my ideas.

Occasionally lurking this past month, I noticed a much more careful tone when these various detractors addressed my existence.

Finally, I was trying to make this point ( and would have addressed it that night except for my 404 ) : just as a person can be one thing one day and something dramatically different the next, so too can gold reincarnate itself on the spin of a dime. There is no immutable law of nature that says gold must trade in a dull downtrend forever. Tomorrow, some existential event could come along and send it soaring like an eagle. It could rise so dramatically that you would never recognize the old yellow metal from its former identity. Just ask the citizens of Korea and Thailand!

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:05
TYoung (RJ...NO HEART...) ID#317193:: Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:04
TYoung (F* don't be so proud...play the game at hand...at least get a new name just in case what we...) ID#317193:: both know will happen happens. Then you can at least post once.

Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 21:03
RJ (..... F spot .....) ID#411259:

No redemption

You are not worthy

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:59
TYoung (F*) ID#317193:: The old �gold is going to $250-$240�is in vogue again. People do not realize the shorts need gold to rise between FND on each contract. Someday the shorts will have to cover and gold will rise so high that the stops will get blown through and huge sums lost.

The downside risk now is minimal. Gold is not just a commodity...2000 years of history is not changed in a few short years. Yes?

Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:56
farfel (@TYoung....Farfel I am and Farfel I will stay...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: ...I will NOT change my handle as a means of gaining entry to K-1.

It is not so important to me. As it turns out, I had a very busy July so my excommunication from K-1 was quite beneficial. Now I have a fairly free week here. Again, I think my timing is good as I believe August will be an extremely interesting month. However, in another two weeks, I will probably disappear again ( maybe sooner ) as I will begin work on a pretty big project.

As for gold cheerleading....I will agree with some of my K-1 detractors that I went overboard in that regard. At a certain point, a person does get boring. In any case, I don't think the metal needs any more cheerleading. The case for ownership is easily made today ( it used to be so much harder to get peoples' attention just one year ago ) . Today, people are very nervous and they are desperately looking for alternatives to YAHOO! at 200 times earnings.

Whenever I talk about gold with investor friends, they no longer turn off. They are usually completely riveted. More importantly, they rush out and buy the stuff now.

Again, I think the basketball held underwater analogy is correct. The metal is ready to spring upward at any moment. It just needs the right trigger. CB's can offer lease rates at next to zero for the benefit of short speculators...but at these POG levels, you require genetic intellectual deficiencies to go short.

Incidentally, do not fall for the gold short line that a high lease rate always acompanies a metal in shortage ( such as platinum ) . Platinum is NOT a global financial reserve whose rapid price increase might threaten the global financial status quo. The low lease rates on gold are imperative in order to ensure continual gold shorting. Gold shorting must continue to avoid a financial paper meltdown.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:44
TYoung (F* at age 50 at least I still can drink with my aspirin...no offense but...) ID#317193:: that episode on K-1 was beyond the line.

Frames here or not?

Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:39
farfel (@TYOUNG...read my 20:11 addressed to JAMES...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: ...it explains my 404. I had planned to expose my new voice at some point. However, before I got the chance, Bart 404'd me, rightfully so.
As you are well aware, TYoung, I have assumed many voices on this forum since I first posted, from evangelistic preacher to rhyming poet to whatever. Remember, I have worked in a creative field most of my life. So if you believe that my past behavior is nutty, well, then I guess there are a helluva lot of nuts out there, from Jack Nicholson to Roamin' Polanski.

Do I lack credibility? Well, I submit that, on an intellectual forum such as this one, a person's thoughts should be of greater import than their occupation or method of delivery. Essentially, what is the person saying? I have heard words of genius come from maids.

Also, I do NOT drink nor do drugs...at least nothing more intense than regular doses of aspirin to keep my blood thin and preclude a heart attack. In my younger years, I was not so virtuous. But, today, my body DEMANDS that I stay straight or pay the price.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:30
TYoung (F* does Bart have a frames version for K-2?....no quotes? ) ID#317193:: I'll hang out on when possible.

Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:25
TYoung (F*...do what Hep-rat/cat did... clean out your cookies and get a new name and post) ID#317193:: Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:23
TYoung (F*...gold will rise when all say no...Yes?) ID#317193:: Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:22
TYoung (We need a cheerleader back...everyone is negative!) ID#317193:: Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:21
farfel (Clarification of my 20:11...) ID#341227:: The last two paragraphs ( suggestion to sell immediately Barrick shares and buy other NON-hedged senior producers ) are mine, NOT JAMES.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:20
TYoung (What set you of when you got 404'd...I'd understand if you werejust drinking like...) ID#317193:: I have done before. Hope it was nothing worse.

Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:13
farfel (TYoung...keep the faith, baby...) ID#341227:: ...as the colloquialism goes, You're Da Man!

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:11
farfel (@JAMES...of course, I do owe you an apology...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: ...my contrived rant was over the top. I simply got tired of being an incessant target of abuse and felt my little impression of RJ going beserk would resonate with K-1. I must have fooled some people. I know that HenryD thought I was RJ pretending to be Farfel. ( For those who doubt the rant was contrived, then rest assured I do not offer Thank You's at the end of genuine explosions of anger ) .

In any case, the exercise succeeded aptly since, during my occasional lurking on K-1 the past month, I noticed the great Farfel gangbang had subsided.

Naturally, James I do not know your wife and do not know you. I imagine you are a likeable fellow, your wife most pleasant, and outside the context of Kitco I imagine we might get along fabulously.

You make very smart points in this paragraph:

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 19:12
James ( Steve in TO@I never implied that Munk is a dummy. I simply stated that ) ID#252150:
he was a failed businessman, who late in middle age, got lucky with a AU mine. However, I feel that he made a huge mistake with the Bre-x fiasco & the shareholders will pay dearly. I also think that he made a big mistake in selling Clark Oil Refining & investing the proceeds in real estate, very late in the cycle.

I fear that gold investors will continue to pay for the derelictions of Barrick and Munk ( withholding info concernng BRE-X fraud plus complete hedging of gold production at 410 in '96 ) . I subscribe to various posters who endorse a policy of selling Barrick and buying other senior NON-HEDGED gold producers. In this fashion, Barrick suffers although the XAU does NOT. Moreover, in this manner, gold investors cast their vote against hedging which, contrary to various gold shorters' assertions, has done remarkable damage to the POG ( Yes, Virginia, there are other ways to obtain mine financing BESIDES hedging, there truly are! ) .

My greatest fear is that, in the not too distant future, Barrick will be slammed badly ( an award of $1 billion or better ) in the Bre-X lawsuit and create overly negative effects on the entire XAU. Therefore, it truly is in the interests of gold investors to IMMEDIATELY vote their dollars out of Barrick and into other senior gold producers. This way, the XAU does not suffer ( In fact, I wonder to what extent the XAU's recent travails are the result of inordinate fears concerning the Barrick lawsuit infecting other senior producers' performances ) .

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 20:09
TYoung (F*...how are you my friend?) ID#317193:: Tom

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 19:48
farfel (Farfel opines....) ID#341227:: Jonesy, I look forward to hearing from various posters at some point or another.

Otherwise, I hope to petition Bart and have this forum renamed, FARFEL's DISCUSSION ON GOLD.

( Hey, Bart, I'm trying, I really am ) .

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 19:39
farfel (@JUJUBE...I'm Not Sure I Understand You...) ID#341227:: ...although if you are searching for my identity, then I would love to learn of your identity as well.

I remember some kids back in my junior high who hated this particular group of Jewish kids...they referred to them as jujubes.

Is your handle related to some kind of antagonism toward Jews?

Just wondering.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 19:31
farfel (@JONESY...Back from a sun-drenched dip in the pool....) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: ...very relaxing and refreshing.

Jonesy, you are a modest man who possesses tremendous insight.

Let me quote you:

Gold -- By summer 1982 gold had declined from its famous 850 top ( in 1980 ) to 305. ( I doubt we know as much about discouragement as the guys who bought in '80 and '81 at five-, six-, seven hundred or more, and held. Perhaps those are the guys who now so fervently disparage gold. ) By September '82, however, gold had shot up to the mid- to high-400s, and by that momentum, topped 500 in early '83.
------------------------------------------
Yes, Armstrong, Arnold, Merrill Lynch, et al are most likely victims of precious metal purchases at the top. Purely conjecture...but why else the vehement, incessant arguments against gold and silver ( although admittedly, I think it is Armstrong who now thinks gold has bottomed ) .

In all likelihood, the same constant antipathy toward gold from RJ and others may stem from buying at the top way back when...or maybe his parents were victims of some gold scam.

Who knows, huh?

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 18:47
Jujube__A ( Hearty welcome back) ID#252286:

Mr. Cohen. What does the D. stand for? David? Daud? Dimmy? Doug?

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 18:33
jonesy (@ farfel -- it *IS* you!) ID#251166:
-

Couldn't get back sooner -- domestic chores, ya know. . .

Got hold of some charts going back to the 70s and 80s for the four PMs. What strikes me as interesting -- and what vronsky talked about a little today -- is the similarity between the first half of '82 and the first half of '98.

Gold -- By summer 1982 gold had declined from its famous 850 top ( in 1980 ) to 305. ( I doubt we know as much about discouragement as the guys who bought in '80 and '81 at five-, six-, seven hundred or more, and held. Perhaps those are the guys who now so fervently disparage gold. ) By September '82, however, gold had shot up to the mid- to high-400s, and by that momentum, topped 500 in early '83.

Silver -- ( I've posted more about silver on K1. ) The '82 to '98 comparison is even more striking here. In Feb. '82 silver topped 8.00, but by mid-June dipped to a low of 4.85. It shot up some in July '82, retreated briefly, then by September was over nine dollars. Silver finished the year around 11.20.

Platinum -- Was still establishing its longer uptrend line. Plat began 1982 at 400, dipped to its low in June at 260, rose a little in July, then retreated, but in September shot back over 400. ( Plat's trendline, though more exaggerated in '82, is, as are gold's and silver's, largely similar to their trendlines of '98 to date ) .

Palladium -- Still ( in '98 ) establishing its long-term uptrend line, therefore extremely volatile. But in summer '82 palladium hovered near its bottom of 45; by the end of '82 it had climbed to 95. ( Percentage-wise... well, do the math. )

What's exciting, I think, is how the price paths of not just one or two, but ( at least ) THREE metals coincide to date with their paths in a same prior year, to date -- especially since that prior year finished so positively. History never repeats itself exactly, of course. But . . .

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 17:38
farfel (Aaah, my towel has arrived....see you all.) ID#341227:: Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 17:37
farfel (@VRONSKY...bad news...) ID#341227:: No matter what I type, KITCO is formatted to print GOLDEN EAGLE.

Is this something between you and Bart?

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 17:36
farfel (Testing...testing...) ID#341227:: golden eagle. golden eagle.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 17:34
farfel (@VRONSKY...sorry again, double oops....ONE MORE TIME....) ID#341227:: ...it must be subconscious or something.

I meant to write, golden eagle!

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 17:31
farfel (Oh, an old article worth a REPOST again....) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: DEAR DOW INVESTORS:

We wish to thank you for your past support and hope that you will
appreciate the urgent need to continue this support. As you are all
aware, we are now but a few points away from DOW 9000. It is absolutely
imperative that you continue your contributions to the
cause...otherwise, we may not be able to sustain our vertical momentum,
in which case all our past efforts will have been for naught. Please do
not pay any attention to our detractors out there who have
established an agenda to undermine our noble efforts. When these
detractors state that there are no future corporate profits out there to
sustain the Dow at its current levels, well, we do not wish to dignify
such slander with a response.

Although we respect that many of you do not have huge amounts of
remaining cash reserves, owing to second mortgages you have taken on
your homes and cash advances upon your credit cards, nevertheless, we
urge you to consider the extreme importance of the DOW 9000 in your
life. Every dollar, every dime, every nickel counts...so please give
just a little more. Your contributions will make some anxious investment
broker's life just a little bit better.

Although many of you prefer to use your last few bits of
available cash for other items, such as food, clothing and shelter,
nevertheless, we urge you to forego these luxuries for the sake of the
DOW 9000.

We respect that there are many other telethons out there that
solicit monies from you each and every day. Naturally, it is impossible
to give something to each and every one. However, we believe that
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children, AIDS, and a host of other community charities are not quite as
important at this time in America's history as our fight to reach the
DOW 9000.

As you know, we have a big party planned once we cross DOW 9000.
Our associate fund-raiser, CNBC, has cases of champagne and thousands of
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while you are tooting your horns and munching upon your cake, CNBC has
THREE WHOLE HOURS of never-before-seen footage celebrating the entire
momentous occasion. It would be nothing less than a crime if these
various celebratory items were left unused merely to collect dust.

Once again, we ask you to look into your hearts and find a little
something for the DOW 9000. You know it will be worth the pain.

Very Truly,

THE DOW 9000 TELETHON.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 17:26
farfel (FARFEL will return...) ID#341227:: I've got a date with a swimming pool and some suntan lotion....

However, my first experience with K-2 was a great one. No fights...no racial slurs...no profanity...no tantrums...no gold shorting sheriffs cut and pasting my comments out of context. I LOVE IT!

Bart, thanks for providing such a great forum.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 17:15
farfel (Worth a Repost....(and nobody here to scold me for redundancy!!)) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: I really LOVE K-2!!!

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 15:06
farfel ( Kitco 1 Versus Kitco 2 ( A Metaphor of Goldbug Mentality ) ) ID#341227:
Copyright � 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Bart, I often wonder what thoughts go through your head as you witness the total absence of posters on your new
creation, Kitco 2. It's a shame since I imagine a great deal of work went into the creation of this alternate site.

Yet, the absence of posters here represents the inherent problem facing gold investors. They swarm together like
bees in a hive, afraid to strike out independently and question the rules and regs of the hive.

Despite continued bandwidth problems on K-1 ( Yes, I have lurked on occasion, despite my fabulous 404 ) , all
the gold investors continue to post exclusively on that forum. You would think that, when bandwidth is slowing
things down there, the K-1 posters would gravitate toward K-2. It makes sense, doesn't it?

Yet, K-2 remains a graveyard...that's because K-1 has evolved into some exclusive, hallowed club sanctioned and
blessed by the gold shorts who fashion the goldbug view on the way things really work in the metals markets.

Only the dregs of goldbugism would consider posting on K-2. Only the non-technicians, the non-chartists, the
anti-Merrill Lynchers, the anti-Armstrongs, the anti-Arnolds, the anti-O'Neils, anti-anti-gold'ers, the anti-status
quo types, would consider posting on K-2.

Moreover, for goldbugs to post on K-2 would imply a departure from a rut.
Goldbugs do not like to leave their ruts.

What ruts do goldbugs find themselves in?

Well, if you're a gold producer, then you buy into the rut of leasing gold, even though in the long run, it is an
endorsement of a gold short's dream. Gold leasing in aggregate destroys the POG.

All gold leasing should end summarily. The miners as a collective should get together and refuse to follow the
Munk road to ruin. Then watch the POG explode.

If you're a gold investor, your rut is as follows: upon any announcements of central bank gold sales, you are
supposed to panic and dump all your gold holdings...even before you've investigated who purchased those gold
sales. You must conveniently ignore the fact that the majority of CB gold sales are intra-bank and do not affect the
total volume of gold hitting the market.

When Merrill Lynch explains that a mere 15% gold support of the EURO is a major disappointment, then you
must panic and dump all your gold holdings. Do NOT question why! Do NOT wonder exactly who is
disappointed! Ted Arnold maybe? Armstrong maybe? Certainly, not any rational gold investor. Again, you must
dump your gold and immediately buy a load of YAHOO!

When any self-anointed Trust Me gold expert explains that European gold sales will continue until 1999, then
you must say, Yowsah, Massa, whatever you say, suh. Now I guess I be goin to sells all my gold now, Massa,
thas wha i be doin, OK? Again, you must never question where those gold sales ( if they truly exist ) are directed
and must NEVER suppose that the odds favor they are intra-bank sales.

So, in a nutshell, I advocate that goldbugs get out of their collective ruts.

Start now...in small ways. Try K-2 for example. It won't harm you.
There's a ton of writing space available here. It only takes a mere few seconds to check out both forums. Certainly
it is advantageous to post here when K-1 is stalledout.

According to Bart, the rules on K-2 are much more lax. More allowance for profanity and irreverence and
iconoclasm.

OK, Bart. How's that? When are you sending me my commission?

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 17:13
farfel (@VRONSKY...oops, sorry...) ID#341227:: ...I meant to write, golden eagle.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 17:12
farfel (USAGOLD and VRONSKY'S golden eagle...) ID#341227:: Kosares and Vronsky continue to post some of the best info about precious metals. Period.

You know how I know it's so good?

Because the various self-appointed sheriffs on K-1 get really pissed off by the info posted on those two great sites.

That's the litmus test of quality.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 17:05
farfel (Frightened in MONTREAL....) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: I spoke the other day to a buddy completing a feature film in Montreal.

After going over the usual bunch of Hollywood crap, our talk shifted to the economy.

My friend has had his head buried in his work. It is no easy task to produce a feature film, a real treadmill.

He was shocked to learn of the various economic events transpiring around
the world. In fact, nervous to the Nth degree. He had no idea about Buffett's huge purchase of silver...had not heard anything about Y2K and the impending rush to hard money.

Now, here's a guy who invests in the markets, who is a real heavy metal rock and roller, a ballsy party all night womanizer ( when he gets some free time ) .

Yet, by the time the conversation ended, this guy had his secretary calling a metals house in order to get himself a nice pile of metal.

My point is this: the real obstacle to a metals bull in America is that most Americans are employed, far too busy, and grossly ignorant of events transpiring outside of their workplaces. Moreover, a media working on behalf of government and the Big Corporations ensures that most Americans will never get the true story on various economic and financial manifestations.

Once informed, the fear reaction is visceral and swift.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 16:48
farfel (@CHEESEHEAD...CAPITALIZING IS NOT SHOUTING!) ID#341227:: It is impossible to shout on an internet forum. No sound here, you see.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 16:46
farfel (@CHEESEHEAD...DON'T STOP CAPITALIZING! K-2 POSTERS LOVE IT!) ID#341227:: Herr Cheese, your capitalization technique is a very interesting facet of your personality.

Don't let the self-anointed sheriffs on K-1 deter you from expressing your fierce, unique personality.

They are NOT really bothered by your capitalization so much as your extremely chauvinistic views on gold and negative opinions about equities.

If you were posting bold slams against gold, those very same sheriffs would never raise a negative comment against you.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 16:34
farfel (Sensitive Thoughts...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: Imagine there is a bank that credits your account each morning with
$86,400. It carries over no balance from day to day. Every evening
deletes whatever part of the balance you failed to use during the day.
What would you do?
Draw out every cent, of course!!!!
Each of us has such a bank.
Its name is TIME.
Every morning, it credits you with 86,400 seconds.
Every night it writes off, as lost, whatever of this you have failed to
invest to good purpose.
It carries over no balance. It allows no overdraft.
Each day it opens a new account for you.
Each night it burns the remains of the day.
If you fail to use the day's deposits, the loss is yours.
There is no going back.
There is no drawing against the tomorrow.
You must live in the present on today's deposits.
Invest it so as to get from it the utmost in health, happiness, and
success!
The clock is running.
Make the most of today.

To realize the value of ONE YEAR, ask a student who failed a grade.

To realize the value of ONE MONTH, ask a mother who gave birth to a
pre-mature baby.

To realize the value of ONE WEEK, ask the editor of a weekly newspaper.

To realize the value of ONE HOUR, ask the lovers who are waiting to
meet.

To realize the value of ONE MINUTE, ask a person who missed the train.

To realize the value of ONE SECOND, ask a person who just avoided an
accident.

To realize the value of ONE MILLISECOND, ask the person who won a
silver medal in the Olympics.
Treasure every moment that you have! And treasure it more because you
shared it with someone special, special enough to spend your time.

And remember that time waits for no one.

Yesterday is history
Tomorrow is mystery
Today is a gift
That's why it's called the present!!

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 16:27
farfel (Reasons I Love K-2...) ID#341227:: 1 ) It appeals to my basic narcissism.
2 ) Nobody ever disputes any of my arguments.
3 ) Easy access, no bandwidth problems.
4 ) Just like having your own website...except without the set-up and maintenance fees.
5 ) I can insult various K-1 posters and never hear back from them.
6 ) Better jokes here.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 16:24
farfel (@JONESY...feel free to gather some of your buddies...) ID#341227:: ...and join the K-2 fun!

I know...you're afraid of ostracism from K-1. Posting on K-2 is considered a demotion over there.

However, it's all a matter of perspective. Seeing the glass half-full or half-empty.

Just like gold...you can spin the perception on a dime...just like what happened to equities back in the early Nineties.

God, I would love to attend a Board of Directors meeting at Merrill Lunch
and speak glowingly about gold, wouldn't you? Just to see the reaction, of course.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 16:17
farfel (Hollywood Going for Gold.) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: I feel GOLD in the air!

De Palma, MGM mine 'Gold'

By Nick Madigan

HOLLYWOOD ( Variety ) - Director Brian De Palma ( ``Mission: Impossible'' )
has signed a muscular deal with MGM for a spec script tentatively titled
``Nazi Gold,'' which he co-wrote with former film critic Jay Cocks.

The action-thriller recalls the Nazis' practice of melting down the gold
teeth and jewelry of Jews to produce gold bullion -- and brings it into the present-day controversy over Nazi holdings in Swiss banks. In the story, a commercial producer becomes involved in a plot to steal Nazi bullion from a Swiss vault, a heist undertaken while the producer is supposedly shooting a commercial in the bank. The thieves' intent is to give the gold bars to the descendants of Holocaust victims.

The deal closed on Thursday after MGM executives made a hurried
assessment of the script, which had reportedly made the rounds at other studios.

``We moved with dispatch,'' MGM president and chief operating officer
Michael Nathanson told Daily Variety from New York. ``We got the script and within 24 hours we had the basic parameters of a deal.''

De Palma had sought more than $10 million -- a sum that was to include
his fee as director and producer as well as Cocks' writing payment -- but he will receive less than that. Production will start in the fall, and will shoot ``all over the world,'' Nathanson said. Casting is underway.

Reuters/Variety
^REUTERS@

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 16:00
farfel (I have a Confession...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: A married man goes to confessions and tells the priest, I had an affair with a woman - almost. The priest says, What do you mean, almost'?

The man says, Well, we got undressed and rubbed together, but then I
stopped.

The priest replies, Rubbing together is the same as putting it in.
You're not to go near that woman again. Now, say five Hail Mary's and put $50 in the poor box. The man leaves confessions, goes over and says his prayers, then walks over to the poor box. He pauses for a moment and then starts to leave. The priest, who was watching him, quickly runs over to him and says,I saw that. You didn't put any money in the poor box! The man replied,Well, Father, I rubbed up against it and you said it was the same as putting it in!

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 15:57
farfel (The BellRinger....) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: The Bellringer.

After Quasimodo's death, the bishop of the cathedral of Notre Dame sent
word through the streets of Paris that a new bell ringer was needed. The
bishop decided he would conduct the interviews personally and went up
into the belfry to begin the screening process.

After observing several applicants demonstrate their skills, he decided
to call it a day when a lone, armless man approached him and announced
that he was there to apply for the bell ringer's job.

The bishop was incredulous. You have no arms!
No matter, said the man, observe! He then began striking the bells
with his face, producing a beautiful melody on the carillon. The bishop
listened in astonishment, convinced that he had finally found a suitable
replacement for Quasimodo.

Suddenly, rushing forward to strike a bell, the armless man tripped, and
lunged headlong out of the belfry window to his death in the street
below.

The stunned bishop rushed to his side. When he reached the street, a
crowd had gathered around the fallen figure, drawn by the beautiful
music they had heard only moments before.

As they silently parted to let the bishop through, one of them asked,
Bishop, who was this man?
I don't know his name, the bishop sadly replied but his face rings a
bell.

{Still with me? You want more, you say?}

The following day, despite the sadness that weighed heavily on his heart
due to the unfortunate death of the armless campanologist ( now there's a
trivia question ) , the bishop continued his interviews for the bell
ringer of Notre Dame.

The first man to approach him said, Your Excellency, I am the brother
of the poor, armless wretch that fell to his death from this very belfry
yesterday. I pray that you honor his life by allowing me to replace him
in this duty.

The bishop agreed to give the man an audition, and as the armless man's
brother stooped to pick up a mallet to strike the first bell, he
groaned, clutched at his chest and died on the spot.

Two monks, hearing the bishop's cries of grief at this second tragedy,
rushed up the stairs to his side. What has happened? the first
breathlessly asked, Who is this man?

I don't know his name, sighed the distraught bishop... but he's a
dead ringer for his brother.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 15:51
farfel (Smile!) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: The Power of a Smile

She smiled at a sorrowful stranger.
The smile seemed to make him feel better.

He remembered past kindnesses of a friend
And wrote him a thank you letter.

The friend was so pleased with the thank you
That he left a large tip after lunch.

The waitress, surprised by the size of the tip,
Bet the whole thing on a hunch.

The next day she picked up her winnings,
And gave part to a man on the street.

The man on the street was grateful;
For two days he'd had nothing to eat.

After he finished his dinner,
He left for his small dingy room.

( He didn't know at that moment
that he might be facing his doom. )

On the way he picked up a shivering puppy
And took him home to get warm.

The puppy was very grateful
To be in out of the storm.

That night the house caught on fire.
The puppy barked the alarm.

He barked till he woke the whole household
And saved everybody from harm.

One of the boys that he rescued
Grew up to be President.

All this because of a simple smile
That hadn't cost a cent.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 15:45
farfel (@MOZEL...thanks for voting against 404...) ID#341227:: Your posts about gold remain captivating and enlightening...

Moreover, your stance against thought censorship is appreciated.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 15:40
farfel (Old Ladies...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: A little old lady goes to the doctor and says, Doctor I have this
problem with gas, but it really doesn't bother me too much. They never
smell and are always silent. As a matter of fact, I've farted at least
20 times since I've been here in your office. You didn't know I was
farting because they don't smell and are silent. The doctor says, I
see, take these pills and come back to see me next week. The next week
the lady goes back. Doctor, she says, I don't know what the hell you
gave me, but now my farts...although still silent...stink
terribly. The doctor says, Good!!! Now that we've cleared up your
sinuses, let's work on your hearing.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 15:35
farfel (Several Nominations for Kitco's HALL OF FAME...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: Rhody...for invaluable info pertaining to gold lease rates.

Donald...for incredible facts and info pertaining to all aspects of life from a wide variety of sources.

A.Goose...for great gold and silver inventory analysis.

HenryD...for great insight and ability in detecting true tone of voice in Kitco postings.

Tyoung...for taking on the gold short arguments whenever they arise.

Sam ( Not Sam ) ....for strong in-depth knowledge of the gold industry.

Gollum...for superb economic analysis.

Hepcat ( gogold ) ...for going against The Trend is Your Friend.

Of course, there are many more...but these are just a few that pop into my mind.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 15:20
farfel (Rabbis and Priests...Gold later.) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: A priest was called away for an emergency. Not wanting to leave the
confessional unattended, he called his rabbi friend from across the
street and asked him to cover for him. The rabbi told him he wouldn't
know what to say, but the priest told him to come on over and he'd stay
with him for a little bit and show him what to do.

The rabbi comes and he and the priest are in the confessional. In a
few minutes a woman comes in and says Father forgive me for I have
sinned. I committed adultery.

Priest says: How many times?

Woman: Three times.

Priest says, Say two Hail Marys, put $5.00 in the box, and sin no
more.

A few minutes later a man enters the confessional. He says, Father
forgive me for I have sinned.

Priest says, What did you do?

Man says, I committed adultery.

Priest asks, How many times?

Man replys, Three times.

Priest says, Say two Hail Marys, put $5.00 in the box, and sin no
more.

The Rabbi tells the priest that he thinks he's got it so the priest
leaves. A few minutes later another woman enters and says, Father
forgive me for I have sinned.

Rabbi says, What did you do?

Woman replys, I committed adultery.

Rabbi asks, How many times?

Woman says Once.

Rabbi says, Go do it two more times, we have a special this week,
three for $5.00.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 15:15
farfel (@JONESY...hi, my friend...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: ...I've decided to take several posters' advice.

I will avoid making prognostications about metals.

Instead, I would rather focus upon my strengths...analysis of market psychology and economics.

However, I will note that Hepcat ( aka gogold ) is acknowledged by Kitco veterans to have the best track record in gold forecasting and market timing. It is interesting to note his call of 325 gold by early November. Quite a trend shift on his part.

His forecast is of notable interest given his past resolute negativity toward gold.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 15:06
farfel (Kitco 1 Versus Kitco 2 (A Metaphor of Goldbug Mentality)) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: Bart, I often wonder what thoughts go through your head as you witness the total absence of posters on your new creation, Kitco 2. It's a shame since I imagine a great deal of work went into the creation of this alternate site.

Yet, the absence of posters here represents the inherent problem facing gold investors. They swarm together like bees in a hive, afraid to strike out independently and question the rules and regs of the hive.

Despite continued bandwidth problems on K-1 ( Yes, I have lurked on occasion, despite my fabulous 404 ) , all the gold investors continue to post exclusively on that forum. You would think that, when bandwidth is slowing things down there, the K-1 posters would gravitate toward K-2. It makes sense, doesn't it?

Yet, K-2 remains a graveyard...that's because K-1 has evolved into some exclusive, hallowed club sanctioned and blessed by the gold shorts who fashion the goldbug view on the way things really work in the metals markets.

Only the dregs of goldbugism would consider posting on K-2. Only the non-technicians, the non-chartists, the anti-Merrill Lynchers, the anti-Armstrongs, the anti-Arnolds, the anti-O'Neils, anti-anti-gold'ers, the anti-status quo types, would consider posting on K-2.

Moreover, for goldbugs to post on K-2 would imply a departure from a rut.
Goldbugs do not like to leave their ruts.

What ruts do goldbugs find themselves in?

Well, if you're a gold producer, then you buy into the rut of leasing gold, even though in the long run, it is an endorsement of a gold short's dream. Gold leasing in aggregate destroys the POG.

All gold leasing should end summarily. The miners as a collective should get together and refuse to follow the Munk road to ruin. Then watch the POG explode.

If you're a gold investor, your rut is as follows: upon any announcements of central bank gold sales, you are supposed to panic and dump all your gold holdings...even before you've investigated who purchased those gold sales. You must conveniently ignore the fact that the majority of CB gold sales are intra-bank and do not affect the total volume of gold hitting the market.

When Merrill Lynch explains that a mere 15% gold support of the EURO is a major disappointment, then you must panic and dump all your gold holdings. Do NOT question why! Do NOT wonder exactly who is disappointed! Ted Arnold maybe? Armstrong maybe? Certainly, not any rational gold investor. Again, you must dump your gold and immediately buy a load of YAHOO!

When any self-anointed Trust Me gold expert explains that European gold sales will continue until 1999, then you must say, Yowsah, Massa, whatever you say, suh. Now I guess I be goin to sells all my gold now, Massa, thas wha i be doin, OK? Again, you must never question where those gold sales ( if they truly exist ) are directed and must NEVER suppose that the odds favor they are intra-bank sales.

So, in a nutshell, I advocate that goldbugs get out of their collective ruts.

Start now...in small ways. Try K-2 for example. It won't harm you.
There's a ton of writing space available here. It only takes a mere few seconds to check out both forums. Certainly it is advantageous to post here when K-1 is stalledout.

According to Bart, the rules on K-2 are much more lax. More allowance for profanity and irreverence and iconoclasm.

OK, Bart. How's that? When are you sending me my commission?

Thanks.

F*

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 14:48
jonesy (F-a-r-f-E-l) ID#251166:: sorry.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 14:46
jonesy (@ Farful) ID#251166:: So what do you see for PMs over the next few weeks?

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 14:25
farfel (Dogs First, Gold Later.) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: There are three labrador retrievers sitting in the waiting
room at the vet's; a black lab, a brown lab and a yellow lab.

The black lab turns to the brown lab and says, Why are you
here?

The brown lab says, I'm a pisser. I piss on everything. I
pissed on my owners sofa, their carpets, their drapes, but the last
straw was when I pissed in the middle of their bed. The black lab
says, What is the vet going to do to you? The brown lab says, sadly,
Lethal injection.

Then the brown lab asks the black, Why are you here?
The black lab says, I'm a digger. I dig under fences, I dig
up the flowers, the bushes. When I'm inside, I dig up the carpets but
the last straw was when I dug a big hole in my owner's sofa.

The brown lab says, What's the vet going to do to you?And the black lab says sadly, Lethal injection.

Then the black and brown labs turn to the yellow lab and ask,
Why are you here? The yellow lab says, I'm a humper. I'll hump
anything. I'll hump the cat, the dining room table, a fire hydrant.
Whatever I see, I want to hump. Why, last week, my owner had taken a shower and was drying her toes and I couldn't help it, I just hopped on her back and humped her.

The black lab says, So you're here for a lethal injection,
too?

No, I'm getting my nails clipped.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 14:22
farfel (Why We Are So Tired.) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved: I guess I'll start things off with a joke:

WHY WE'RE ALL SO TIRED

For a couple years I've been blaming it on iron deficient blood, lack
of vitamins, dieting and a dozen other maladies. But now I found
out the real reason. I'm tired because I'm overworked.

The population of this country is 237 million. 104 million are
retired. That leaves 133 million to do the work.

There are 85 million in school, which leave 48 million to do the
work.

Of this there are 29 million employed by the federal government.
This leaves 19 million to do the work.

Four million are in the Armed Forces, which leaves 15 million to do
the work.

Take from the total the 14,800,000 people who work for State and
City Government and that leaves 200,000 to do the work.

There are 188,000 ill and in hospitals, so that leaves 12,000 to do the
work.

Now, there are 11,998 people in Prisons. That leaves just two people
to do the work. You and me. And you're sitting there f***in' around
on the Kitco Forum.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 14:18
farfel (I'm back in?) ID#341227:: Thanks, Bart.

Date: Sat Aug 01 1998 14:17
farfel (Test.) ID#341227:: Test.

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