I will wait......the trend is your friend.

Do not try to pick bottom here..........you will end up needing to clean your fingernails........uh huh.

I am more inclined to sell the rallies........tick-tock....

away.....to the charts

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These folks could never liquidate all of their holdings and receive that stated valuation. There can be no doubt that they are wealthy, but these theoretical valuations are somewhat more 'splash' than anything useful. It does make a good news story on a slow day though.

I 'stood' on bended knee ( can one do that? ) and ASKED her to be my wifeage. She said OKEEDOKEE.......then, I passed out and when I came too someone was shoving GULPS of Cuervo down my still trembling throat. Having choked them down we celebrated till the wee hours......gulping and puffing........and........ ( tee hee ) ........... ( censored ) ...................... ( how apropos ) ......

I did use GOLD with that diamond ringy. Wanted Platinum but it was short notice in St. Thomas USVI.............ya......hoo..... ( ! ) .

away.....to sweat the details later

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I can remember one of the first catch phrases I heard about investing is that you don't fight the fed.If the markets are being manipulated why do some - including myself- fight the trend.Why invest in pm's if the price is manipulated against us.I'm not being reasonable.To be a contrarian,one is not reasonable,at least not in this market,not at this time.I just can't help myself.

I like gold.Bubbling and gushing,I like the color and the feel of it.I don't like what it's price has done to my portfolio.I think I would have made more money investing in something else.That is what I think today.Tommorrow could be like a couple weeks ago and I felt like a genius investing in gold.I have no faith to shake anymore.I am going to be reasonable.Gold is stuck here in the 300 range plus,minus 10% until Ms. Cohen gets a ticker tape parade on wall street.It is stuck until the crowd no longer feels the government will insure the market,or that it can.

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Gollum,I think that the peanuts here in Okla. are being harder hit than anything else.A crop adjustor friend of mine had some awfully puny examples with him last week. The cotton looked good to me though. I am familiar with peanuts;I don't know much about cotton.

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I have a business acquaintance who was going to sell a stockpile of crushed cars for scrap but was told the price he would get and decided to hang onto the scrap until he could get a better price.He was told the cheap Japanese iron and steel was flooding the market and depressing prices.True or not true: Iron behaves a lot like gold.I wish the miners would act like my friend.

Stéphane CEAUX-DUTHEIL DOW-JONES Analysis I translated it in english.The translation is not guaranteed. http://www.scdut.com/athiwx/aaa.html The TECHNICAL CORRECTION COULD BE OVER Le Dow-Jones has met its strong zone of resistance 8400-8560 points ( side resistance chartist and moving average to 200 days ) , and seems now prepared to move downward again . Is the correction over or is it only at one intermediate level? Dow-Jones could have very well completed its upward technical correction at 8560 points because it have reached simultaneously the 100 and 200 days moving average ( return to the moving average to validate the break of it, before a new downward move? ) . It should be noted that the 100 days moving average is presently cutting downward the 200 days moving average . If a downward move takes place at the same time and that the 8100 points level does not hold,. then this technical correction would be really over and the market will be then ready for a fall of about 2000 points even less.If level of 8100 points holds then a last rally to 8560-8700 points could very well take place before a new strong downward move resumes Indicator SCD as you can see it on the second graph very well identifies the last movements of Dow-Jones. Presently it gives a buy signal and turns back towards the moving average which filters it, an upward rebound against this moving average will give credit to the thesis of an increase to the 8560-8700 level. A downward crossing of its moving average will warn us of an imminent fall. So you will follow the evolution of my indicator in the weeks to come. It is important to watch the head and shoulder configuration which the Dow-Jones is building, . An downward rupture of the 7500 level at the end of a week would accelerate the downward move to the levels shown in the third graph. Opinion very negative on the mid-term evolution of the Dow-Jones.

Don't speak for me.

Read some history and understand what happens

with Utopias.

Don't try to create a Utopia, for the loss

ensued is too great.

The Political Correctness of today creates laws that remove freedom only

from those that follow them. As it has in the past. There is a stanglehold

carressing us all and will get worse without the tolerance of people to handle

their own actions and feelings in the presence of bad behavior.

Don't know if you ever played touch football, but there was a lesson to be

learned when the 'owner' of the football took it home because he didn't like

the way the game was going. He owned the ball, but the game was life.

Life and Freedom are GOLD

Milo

Anyway, the trip wasn't so bad........... ( boozed out and rather sundrenched ) ................. ( and the food ) .......... ( sheesh ) ....................I am on a strict regiment............only four meals a day for me ( grin ) .........and one-half bottle of red.........and possibly a beer or two.

And I spent a GREAT deal of profits duty free....................I found out that I truly despise sales tax................. ( eh mozel? ) ......

Met a HEAVY DUTY trader on board.......it was great. And he played some MEAN black jack...........craps sucked, bunch-o-suckers.....uh huh. The roulette was spectacular, as usual, it is the game of kings ( 'nuther grin thing ) . I only made enough though to pay my bar tab.............but it was big so I guess I made out.

.....So..... back to this trader. He is BIG BULL on stox....said it will hit new record next month and push OVER 10g's come December...January latest. I could only say...........wow. He is the biggest bull I have seen in a looooong while. It was great. He gave me good trade tips.....I gave him Cubans and Hondurans.................we had an arrangement. We talked of gold too................for about fifteen or twenty seconds, although he did play some gold stox on occasion. Oh well, I tried....I did my part. Perhaps he'll see the light...... ( more grinnage ) .... We even jumped ship ( expression ) a few times to call our brokers to make some trades......It was fun. I guess I couldn't go the whole week after all.......gotta love this stuff.

Anyway, good fun, glad too be back.....I wish someone would stop the room from swaying......... ( gettin my land legs back ) .............and I met a fine Indian Bartender who was suprised when I said Namasté..........delightfully suprised.......ohmy. Do you know what he said to me.........TOL#1?

¡Shukriya! http://www.elite.net/~runner/www/www/jennifers/thankyou.htm

everyone else said, No problem mon........after I said, I'll have a Red Stripe...........

away.........namasté, G&P's, go golf!

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oh yeah....almost forgot................screw gold, I am into diamonds now. Yes, I axed her.......and she said yes...........¡ohmy! Oh god what have I done : )

If gold stays down after AG continues to lower rates, that just means to me that he didn't lower them fast enough, and big time deflation is ahead for the dollar. This reminds me of the 1992-1993 period where AG had no choice other than eventually let gold rise.

One of you made a point about an election year coming up. Yes -- time to stimulate the markets to make the economy look good for the year 2000 presidential elections. But -- is Kenneth Starr going along with this? Is everyone treating the Clinton impeachment proceedings with kid gloves to prevent a possible depression? I don't know - perhaps not. The Dems did not hesitate in going after Nixon due to fears about trashing the economy.

Also -- I think AG himself is now a 'lame duck'. If so, he may do what he thinks is right, not what is politically expedient. Just how much longer will Robert Rubin stick around, given the bad taste in his mouth regarding WJC? As far as I can tell, RR is sticking around because of concerns about the democratic party, the markets and the economy, not because of WJC.

at the end of your post. My firm is seeing industrial

facilities projects related to the computer industry halted

at different stages of design or construction as these

businesses slow.

Neil ( Jo'Burg ) ID#38970:

Where are the men?

IF

If you can keep your head when all about you

are losing theirs and blaming it on you,

If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,

but make allowance for their doubting, too,

if you can wait and not be tired of waiting,

or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,

or being hated, don’t give way to hating,

and yet, don’t look too good nor talk too wise.

If you can dream, and not make dreams your master,

if you can think, and not make thoughts your aim,

if you can meet with triumph and disaster,

and treat those two impostors just the same,

if you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken

twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,

and stoop and build ‘em up with worn-out tools,

If you can make one heap of all you winnings,

and risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,

and lose, and start again at your beginnings,

and never breathe one word about your loss,

If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew

to serve your turn long after they are gone,

and so hold on when there is nothing in you

except the will that says to them: hold on!

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,

or walk with kings, nor lose the common touch,

if neither foe nor loving friend can hurt you,

if all men count with you, but none too much,

if you can fill the unforgiving minute

with sixty seconds worth of distance run,

yours is the Earth, and everything that’s in it,

and - which is more - you’ll be a man, my son!

Rudyard Kipling

I see two things that are goosing the markets -- the thought that AG might lower rates again, and euphoria from the lack of impeachment proceedings -- pre election. Kenneth Starr is still collecting testimony on something, now that the Monica situation has loosened things up. A post-election bolus of news is likely.

I may be wrong, but I think we must beware the bull trap in the bear market -- just wait until some of WJC's cronies 'take the fifth'.

Gold equities look very weak right now -- either the 'calm before a gold bull begins', or trouble ahead. Didn't gold turn down before the general equity markets in October 1997? Mainland China is losing ground -- don't know how much longer they can hang on to their bullish plan. The Communist Chinese are notorious for their boom and bust cycles. And -- they have little to lose from a financial collapse and the loss of foreign investment money -- they will always have eager foreign investors to invest in one of the biggest economies in the world. Might have to wait a few years if there is a big bust, though.

Either way you look at it, this is not a time to be 100% long in the equities markets.

http://tiger.golden.net/laird/TimeSPX.htm

http://tiger.golden.net/laird/TimeDOW.htm

http://tiger.golden.net/laird/Comment.htm

In keeping with tradition remove en from golden and have a look at this article:

http://www.golden-eagle.com/editorials_98/herbener102698.html

There is a distinct possibility that the Japanese government drags out the recovery of their own economy by interceeding when direct market action would clean things up quicker.

Will

However, the netiquette guidelines specifically request that this not be done, and I agreed to that precondition as part of my right to post, So given the choice of non-censored freedom of expression and adhering to my honor given pledge I must chose the latter, and I feel if we are to operate with any honor we are all bound by that initial pledge or it is meaningless. Yes I can see that this post is an attempt to be humorous,

but that has no bearing on my point of honor as to our pledges. So in sum those of you who say this is allright I must ask do you mean you claim the right to rescind your pledge?

Perhaps we should all ask ro reread the inital agreement we consented to when Bart granted us use of this forum to express ourselves.

There really has been a lot of good posting on freedom of speech

vs. censorship but to sum up my point we never agreed to free speech

in our original preconditions giving us the right to post here.

and I am just feeling so good about my United States of America. Why

if the Dow is rising tomorrow as I go to the polls I may even volunteer to hold democratic banners at the polling sites. NOT!!!!!!{:- )

Thank you in advance!!!

http://markets.tradingtech.com/Financials/SP/SPDaily/SPD/SPD_0.html

Wave 5 close in Copper and Platinum

http://markets.tradingtech.com/Metals/CP/CPDaily/CPD/CPD_0.html

http://markets.tradingtech.com/Metals/PL/PLDaily/PLD/PLD_0.html

Mercy and Justice are the weightier parts of the Law ...spoken by the

King of the Jews 32 A.D. --- When to administer mercy... ( Rich surely spoke

in jest, at himself if he truly is yiddish, yet, I know men who have lost loved

ones as a result of a joke gone awry... ) --- When to administer justice... ( the

only way to establish order ( in an imperfect forum ) is to make rules and

Stick To Them. Usually in our home , I end up telling our daughter, These

are the rules and Next Time I'm going to stick by them...Now, go out and

have fun, and be good!

Beautiful green arrows across the board this a.m. on Bart's header, and someone likes Stillwater. Hey Silverbaron...we finally got our first win of the season. Go Panthers!

On the plus side, if we can figure out how to be civil with each other there might be a ray of hope for the world. A golden ray? ( Back to topic )

Perhaps this is a play on the metals light weight and great strength? After all, who would care to link a credit card to a monetary metals history for psychological reasons? I mean, after all, the word 'gold' does conjure up all sorts of images, and so does platinum. Then again, it's probably just me...........

Oh and if anyone wants to be politically correct - get off this GOLD Discussion Group. Go GOLD, GUNS & GOLF!

If this voting mechanism forbids multiple votes from the same poster then we could put this idea to a neat use. We could have a running opinion poll on the future price of our metal. It could be refreshed once a week, say on a Friday night when we would all start voting our price again. We could have prices like future delivery contracts, maybe at $25 or even $50 intervals to keep it simple, to vote for the p.o.g. six months out.

The results would be rather like looking at futures but confined to the cognoscenti and others who post on our board. Bart might well get yet more exposure if this Kitco index of futures became established and received coverage.

Who will be the judge?

Will we have a committee for purity?

Who will guard that we shovel it equally?

Will we take action even if the comment was made against the group with no representation on this forum?

Will we take action against the majority ( e.g. from USA, which frequently talks down them other bastards?

Will we bring a language expert to judge if the comment is just improper language structure in expressing and/or interpreting the comment?

Will we ask the offender to come for a personal interview and a background investigation so we can better judge his/her intention?

Maybe we should ask one of the US government agencies to step in. Oh well, it would not work, the site is run from Canada ;- )

I am just one of the ethnic minorities on the forum and in the US melting pot who got his share of insults but will never be the first to cast the stone

I am sure that there always be somebody who knows better so I just shut up.

Regards - Miro

http://www.securitytrader.com/precmetals.htm

Yvan Auger's XAU Elliott wave analysis - not yet updated

http://www.mgl.ca/~yauger/wrapup.html