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Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 21:33
Realistic (Gold buying) ID#410194:
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Farfel,

Do you still buy more when Gold goes down like today? Do you still don't care and buy more? Any news about the promised Gold short squeeze?

Please let us know, thanks.

Date: Tue Mar 31 1998 19:30
farfel ( ) ID#340302:
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...while I was down at the unemployment office, I got into a lengthy chat with all the fellas standing in line. Drunk as I was, I still managed to explain quite coherently my favorable opinions on gold as an investment asset.

By the time I finished, an amazing thing happened. All the guys were chanting...some weird, sing-song slogan...I think it went something like this...

I DON'T CARE...I'M BUYING MORE.
I DON'T CARE...I'M BUYING MORE.
I DON'T CARE...I'M BUYING MORE.

Now, I can't predict what the cumulative purchasing power of some 30 unemployment cheques will have on the price of gold but every little bit counts, don't you think?

Fondest,

F*

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 21:30
Realistic (Market collapse?) ID#410194:
Farfel, can you tell us when will the market collapse as it certainly didnt do so last Spring as you announced it will.

Thanks.

Date: Sat Mar 07 1998 17:50
farfel ( WHY A STOCK MARKET COLLAPSE WILL OCCUR THIS SPRING, NOT IN FALL... ) ID#339265:
Once the American stock market collapses ( along with the Dollar ) , there will be significant instablility in the world financial markets. The net effect: essential commodities will revalue themselves upward ( in U.S. dollar terms ) in an astounding slingshot effect

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 21:27
Realistic (@farfel) ID#410194:
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Don't forget to answer my question of the other day when you get a chance, thanks.

Bonds reached yet another all-times high today. ( Dec bonds above 135.00!!! )

8 months ago, bonds were around 118.00.

People who invested in bonds around March and April of this year, have been part of one of the most amazing bull market of the board this year.

What are your friends thinking of this huge move Farfel?

Date: Tue Mar 03 1998 22:03
farfel ( @DONALD...YOU SAY DEFLATION, FRIEDMAN SAYS INFLATION, AND I SAY... ) ID#28585:
NEO-STAGFLATION....

I warned many friends to avoid this Wall Street propagandistic manipulation...in fact, I went down on my knees with some of them and BEGGED THEM not to place any monies in bonds. I categorically predicted the current bearish scenario now unfolding in the bond market; it will only exacerbate as the TORRENT of newly printed money ( printed in the aftermath of the October crash in order to maintain liquidity ) begins to hammer bonds even further over the short-term..

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 21:20
farfel (Why Does the American Goverment Want Americans to Invest in Bonds?) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Why not precious metals?

Because America has one hell of a major National Debt to service. As foreigners sell their US treasury bonds positions ( owing to a weakening US dollar and foreign government desires to take care of home fires ) , the American government hopes that Americans will step in and fill the enormous void. Despite Clinton's continuous gleeful declarations about balancing the budget, he has made essentially no progress in cutting the National Debt. America barely meets its daily principal payments on the debt.

Moreover, the government wants to encourage Americans fleeing the equities markets to continue investing in corporate bonds such that the great American corporate machine does not shut down completely. If America's corporations cannot raise funds through equity offerings, IPO's, etc., ( after a market crash ) , then the thesis is that at least American corporations should be able to function via Americans' continued purchases of bond offerings.

If American's direct their investment monies into precious metals purchases, then such investments do little if anything to satisfy the National Debt obligations.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 21:10
farfel (Japanese Banks Crisis Portends Stagflation in America...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
It's repost...but a damn good one, I must say.

----------------------------------------------------

As Japanese banks fold, their ability to supply credit to domestic producers is disappearing. The net effect:
production shutdown right and left. It's happening at full speed even as I am typing this post.

So, what happens in America? Aggregate domestic American demand is still relatively strong. Soon, we will
see fewer Japanese cars, stereos, cell phones, etc., etc. on retail shelves.

You will go down to Circuit City to buy that PANASONIC you always wanted...but it will not be there. Empty
shelves because foreign product supply will disappear.

In order for the Fed and Treasury to convince Americans abandoning stocks to stay in bonds, Greenspan and
Rubin have happily aided and abetted the propagation of the deflationary spiral thesis. As part of this thesis,
we encounter the notion of cheap exports flooding America from desperate foreign countries trying to acquire
Amercian Dollars. In the short term, this thesis has proven to be correct. No surprise there. However, in the
medium to long-term, the thesis is an abject deception.

It is a complete fabrication, no different than Clinton's lies about Lewinksy's oral talents. No surprise there.
When a chronic liar leads the country, then why would anybody in their right mind expect the Fed Chairman or
Treasury Secretary to be any more forthright and candid about
the economic realities unfolding in this country.

Goods shortages will show up this December in AMerica just in time for X-mas. That Nissan you've always
wanted...forget about it. You will search long and hard to find it...and when you finally find it, in all
likelihood, your neighbor will beat you to the salesroom floor.

Thus, one can expect certain industry sectors to be rife with inflationary pressures....at the same time that other
economic indicators are giving every indication that we are sliding into a major economic slowdown.

In order to stem these sectoral inflationary pressures, the government will be forced to hike interest rates even
as unemployment is rising at breakneck speed. The bond market will collapse and in my opinion, I believe this
collapse will trigger the final equities market debacle.

That leaves precious metals, notably gold and silver, as the true flights to safety. In all the turmoil, CB's will be
competing with individuals, gold funds, and other institutions for the physical metal. The paper crisis will be in
full effect as the masses desperately chase a currency with real intrinsic value....something backed by
something more substantive than just the compromised faith of any national government.

As they say on K-1, Do Ya Got Gold?

Thanks.

F*

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 20:56
farfel (Collapsing Japanese Banks Mean Stagflation in America....) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
As Japanese banks fold, their ability to supply credit to domestic producers is disappearing. The net effect: production shutdown right and left. It's happening at full speed even as I am typing this post.

So, what happens in America? Aggregate domestic American demand is still relatively strong. Soon, we will see fewer Japanese cars, stereos, cell phones, etc., etc. on retail shelves.

You will go down to Circuit City to buy that PANASONIC you always wanted...but it will not be there. Empty shelves because foreign product supply will disappear.

In order for the Fed and Treasury to convince Americans abandoning stocks to stay in bonds, Greenspan and Rubin have happily aided and abetted the propagation of the deflationary spiral thesis. As part of this thesis, we encounter the notion of cheap exports flooding America from desperate foreign countries trying to acquire Amercian Dollars. In the short term, this thesis has proven to be correct. No surprise there. However, in the medium to long-term, the thesis is an abject deception.

It is a complete fabrication, no different than Clinton's lies about Lewinksy's oral talents. No surprise there. When a chronic liar leads the country, then why would anybody in their right mind expect the Fed Chairman or Treasury Secretary to be any more forthright and candid about
the economic realities unfolding in this country.

Goods shortages will show up this December in AMerica just in time for X-mas. That Nissan you've always wanted...forget about it. You will search long and hard to find it...and when you finally find it, in all likelihood, your neighbor will beat you to the salesroom floor.

Thus, one can expect certain industry sectors to be rife with inflationary pressures....at the same time that other economic indicators are giving every indication that we are sliding into a major economic slowdown.

In order to stem these sectoral inflationary pressures, the government will be forced to hike interest rates even as unemployment is rising at breakneck speed. The bond market will collapse and in my opinion, I believe this collapse will trigger the final equities market debacle.

That leaves precious metals, notably gold and silver, as the true flights to safety. In all the turmoil, CB's will be competing with individuals, gold funds, and other institutions for the physical metal. The paper crisis will be in full effect as the masses desperately chase a currency with real intrinsic value....something backed by something more substantive than just the compromised faith of any national government.

As they say on K-1, Do Ya Got Gold?

Thanks.

F*

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 18:51
LGB ( @ Pete / *Fspot / Tyro) ID#269409:
Pete... Make that HORSES Arse if you're going to comment. My mama can toss better insults than you pal!

*Fstain.... Where'd Tbills end today? You never answer Realistic's excellent questions.

Tyro.... The sum total of Gold, silver, and stock market related posts compared to yours has a ratio of 967X10 thirtieth : 1

So considering the source, I'm not sure your point is entirely valid.

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 18:32
Pete (Tyro) ID#222231:
RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!He just can't stop being an arse.

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 18:03
Tyro (@LGB) ID#36977:
If you're so interested in market gyrations, why do you continue to post 1700+ word attacks instead of discussing the issue raised, i.e., how LTCM can cover their gold sold short without affecting price? Don't bother to answer, tho'; for you it is a rhetorical question.

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 15:17
Realistic (@farfel) ID#410194:
Copyright © 1998 Realistic/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Don't forget to answer my question of the other day when you get a chance, thanks.

Bonds reached yet another all-times high today. ( Dec bonds above 135.00!!! )

8 months ago, bonds were around 118.00.

People who invested in bonds around March and April of this year, have been part of one of the most amazing bull market of the board this year.

What are your friends thinking of this huge move Farfel?

Date: Tue Mar 03 1998 22:03
farfel ( @DONALD...YOU SAY DEFLATION, FRIEDMAN SAYS INFLATION, AND I SAY... ) ID#28585:
NEO-STAGFLATION....

I warned many friends to avoid this Wall Street propagandistic manipulation...in fact, I went down on my knees with some of them and BEGGED THEM not to place any monies in bonds. I categorically predicted the current bearish scenario now unfolding in the bond market; it will only exacerbate as the TORRENT of newly printed money ( printed in the aftermath of the October crash in order to maintain liquidity ) begins to hammer bonds even further over the short-term..

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 15:12
farfel (Final Point of the Day...IMF probably will NOT sell any gold...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
...the truth is that the IMF is reluctant to provide any aid whatsoever to failing nations across the world. In the past year, the institution has seen much of this aid squandered. Certainly, such aid failed to achieve any genuine economic stability in those turbulent economies it was designed to support.

I think the IMF is biased at this point to stay on the sidelines and avoid any action until the dust has finally settled. It's pointless to provide billions of dollars of aid to failing banks, institutions, and individuals who rarely conform to the requirements of such aid, instead squandering it on derivatives investments bets and purchases of luxury chateaus in the South of France.

My guess is that the IMF will do little if anything ( and certainly will NOT sell any gold ) until some kind of equilibrium level is reached in the world economic order.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 15:03
Realistic (@farfel) ID#410194:
Copyright © 1998 Realistic/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Don't forget to answer my question of the other day when you get a chance, thanks.

Bonds reached yet another all-times high today. ( Dec bonds above 135.00!!! )

8 months ago, bonds were around 118.00.

People who invested in bonds around March and April of this year, have been part of one of the most amazing bull market of the board this year.

What are your friends thinking of this huge move Farfel?

Date: Tue Mar 03 1998 22:03
farfel ( @DONALD...YOU SAY DEFLATION, FRIEDMAN SAYS INFLATION, AND I SAY... ) ID#28585:
NEO-STAGFLATION....

I warned many friends to avoid this Wall Street propagandistic manipulation...in fact, I went down on my knees with some of them and BEGGED THEM not to place any monies in bonds. I categorically predicted the current bearish scenario now unfolding in the bond market; it will only exacerbate as the TORRENT of newly printed money ( printed in the aftermath of the October crash in order to maintain liquidity ) begins to hammer bonds even further over the short-term..

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 14:57
farfel (Final Observation: notice how strong Treasury Bonds are today.) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Why so strong? Because once again, the usual market manipulators are determined to prove that, in any equities downturn, bonds are the only true flight to safety. They must prove that gold as a perceived flight to safety is complete delusion propounded by the lunatic fringe.

Again, as we move into a vicious stagflation, the bonds bubble will pop and decimate the value of these holdings. Many bondsholders will be completely wiped out as their bonds fail owing to the insolvency of the institutions backing them. The speed of such decimation will boggle the mind.

The only true repository of value in such an economic crisis will be precious metals, certainly NOT bonds.

Now you understand?

Thank.

F*

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 14:57
Realistic (Thank you) ID#410194:
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Date: Sat Oct 03 1998 19:18
PH in LA ( ) ID#225408:
Copyright 1998 PH in LA/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved

REALISTIC:

I sincerely hope you spend a little time congratulating yourself on what is obviously a clever way of expressing yourself. Because fortunately, these reposts are the actual truth. Instead of phony hypocritical deceptive lying of *Fspot and myself...., they demonstrate the perspective of your thought...the utter truth. As opposed to the utter dearth of imaginitive thought that I myself express when I fail to EVER give any original information or perspective on anything market related.

In fact, in this real world, most of us knee jerk liberal Clinton and Farfel defenders, do think one thing one day and the same thing the next....regardless of evidence to the contrary.

This is an inevitable part being subhuman and of not seeking truth. Your own obvious enjoyment in wallowing in honesty and facts is pleasant to behold. And it is whining by me to constantly assert, on such and such a day, you said so and so, and...now you say blah, blah, blah...Can you please explain and prove and oh you're attacinbg my hero's again?

It can only be termed a severely limited mind that demonstrates an inability to comprehend and/or accept one of the most fundamental tenents of the human condition: Facts matter! Words matter! What one thinks in all sincerity one moment has little to so with what Spinmesitering Propagandists like *Fspot and *Puetz pretend to claim they think in all sincerity another.

Without going into too much detail, a myriad of changes are constantly swirling around in each of our own personal environments, and to some extent they cannot help but define and redefine our all-too-human existence. But then, most of us understand what Robert de Niro's character in the movie The Deerhunter said to another whining weakling: That was then! This is now! Of course in the case of my failed Guru's, such intellectual honesty doesn't exist.

Why not consider working up some stronger material? Like the posts I always make on my own market perspective? Ooops, I forgot...I never make any..just parrot what my Guru's and liberal Govt. daddies say.

You may recall ( if it was not before your time ) what Walter Pirsig says in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, The real motorcycle you're working on is the cycle you call yourself.

Think about it! I don't!

*******WARNING*******
These observations will be reposted as a reminder to REALISTIC to ignore the demented ramblings of PH, whenever one of his nuisance posts is observed.

PS. REALISTIC: Don't be too dis heartened by anything LGB says. He doesn't seem to be able to recognize an intelligent comment from me when he sees one. Ooops, maybe he never HAS seen one!

PH in LA

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 14:55
Realistic (@farfel) ID#410194:
Copyright © 1998 Realistic/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Don't forget to answer my question of the other day when you get a chance, thanks.

Bonds reached yet another all-times high today. ( Dec bonds above 135.00!!! )

8 months ago, bonds were around 118.00.

People who invested in bonds around March and April of this year, have been part of one of the most amazing bull market of the board this year.

What are your friends thinking of this huge move Farfel?

Date: Tue Mar 03 1998 22:03
farfel ( @DONALD...YOU SAY DEFLATION, FRIEDMAN SAYS INFLATION, AND I SAY... ) ID#28585:
NEO-STAGFLATION....

I warned many friends to avoid this Wall Street propagandistic manipulation...in fact, I went down on my knees with some of them and BEGGED THEM not to place any monies in bonds. I categorically predicted the current bearish scenario now unfolding in the bond market; it will only exacerbate as the TORRENT of newly printed money ( printed in the aftermath of the October crash in order to maintain liquidity ) begins to hammer bonds even further over the short-term..

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 14:55
Realistic (@farfel) ID#410194:
Copyright © 1998 Realistic/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Don't forget to answer my question of the other day when you get a chance, thanks.

Bonds reached yet another all-times high today. ( Dec bonds above 135.00!!! )

8 months ago, bonds were around 118.00.

People who invested in bonds around March and April of this year, have been part of one of the most amazing bull market of the board this year.

What are your friends thinking of this huge move Farfel?

Date: Tue Mar 03 1998 22:03
farfel ( @DONALD...YOU SAY DEFLATION, FRIEDMAN SAYS INFLATION, AND I SAY... ) ID#28585:
NEO-STAGFLATION....

I warned many friends to avoid this Wall Street propagandistic manipulation...in fact, I went down on my knees with some of them and BEGGED THEM not to place any monies in bonds. I categorically predicted the current bearish scenario now unfolding in the bond market; it will only exacerbate as the TORRENT of newly printed money ( printed in the aftermath of the October crash in order to maintain liquidity ) begins to hammer bonds even further over the short-term..

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 14:55
Realistic (@farfel) ID#410194:
Copyright © 1998 Realistic/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Don't forget to answer my question of the other day when you get a chance, thanks.

Bonds reached yet another all-times high today. ( Dec bonds above 135.00!!! )

8 months ago, bonds were around 118.00.

People who invested in bonds around March and April of this year, have been part of one of the most amazing bull market of the board this year.

What are your friends thinking of this huge move Farfel?

Date: Tue Mar 03 1998 22:03
farfel ( @DONALD...YOU SAY DEFLATION, FRIEDMAN SAYS INFLATION, AND I SAY... ) ID#28585:
NEO-STAGFLATION....

I warned many friends to avoid this Wall Street propagandistic manipulation...in fact, I went down on my knees with some of them and BEGGED THEM not to place any monies in bonds. I categorically predicted the current bearish scenario now unfolding in the bond market; it will only exacerbate as the TORRENT of newly printed money ( printed in the aftermath of the October crash in order to maintain liquidity ) begins to hammer bonds even further over the short-term..

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 14:51
farfel (Why Gold Failed to Close at its Low today...) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
...despite the announcement of possible IMF gold sales to aid Brazil?

Answer: the announcement was used as a scare tactic to drive down the price in order for various hedge funds, brokerages, and gold shorts to buy back their short positions. The gold price rallied upon the close as the gold shorts closed these positions.

Expect more of the same scare tactics. However, the likelihood of IMF gold sales remains low. Key members are opposed as such sales would undermine the value of their most precious monetary asset, gold ( NOT paper! ) .

You, the goldbugs, the gold investing institutions and funds...you are the only real suppliers of physical gold out there. The CB's, for all intents and purposes, have completed their sales. Now, they must meet increasing demand for physical from their respective native populations. This increasing demand is evidenced by the rising lease rate which will continue to rise so long as goldbugs and gold investment institutions do NOT allow themselves to be conned by the latest gold short scam, i.e., the IMF gold sale ruse.

Keep calm, do not panic...the gold bull is here in full force.

The best evidence I ever saw of the potential strength of this gold bull occurred on Friday when Homestake announced a special centimillion plus writedown. During the gold bear, Homestake stock would have trashed; instead, it rose strongly.

I have said it in the past and I will repeat it once again:

IT'S HERE!

Thanks.

F*

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 14:39
farfel (ANSWER TO QUESTION: Who would likely buy IMF gold sales?) ID#341227:
Copyright © 1998 farfel/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
The answer is simple....gold shorts like Armstrong, Smith, Arnold....and hedge funds like LTCM, Everest, Converse, etc....brokerage houses like Merrill Lunch and Lehman and Goldman Sachs, etc.

Why?

In order to drive the price down before they cover their astronomical shorts of the metal.

Don't be spooked by the scare tactics. Just keep buying the precious yellow.

Demand immediate delivery.

The gold short squeeze is unavoidable.

Gold will be more expensive than Plat before the end of the year. Much more expensive.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 14:28
farfel (IMF Sales of Gold to help out Brazil?) ID#341227:
The important question here once again is this:

WHO WOULD BE BUYING THE METAL?

Answer that question and you need not fear about IMF sales of gold.

Ask yourself who is buying the metal...that's all that really matters.

Everything else is simply a scare tactic ( and a tiresome one at that! ) . YAWN!

Thanks.

F*

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 14:25
farfel (@PH in LA....keep on posting your thoughts on K-1...) ID#341227:
...very cogent and a good read. Your analysis is top notch.

Thanks.

F*

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 11:20
Realistic (Thank you) ID#410194:
Copyright © 1998 Realistic/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Date: Sat Oct 03 1998 19:18
PH in LA ( ) ID#225408:
Copyright 1998 PH in LA/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved

REALISTIC:

I sincerely hope you spend a little time congratulating yourself on what is obviously a clever way of expressing yourself. Because fortunately, these reposts are the actual truth. Instead of phony hypocritical deceptive lying of *Fspot and myself...., they demonstrate the perspective of your thought...the utter truth. As opposed to the utter dearth of imaginitive thought that I myself express when I fail to EVER give any original information or perspective on anything market related.

In fact, in this real world, most of us knee jerk liberal Clinton and Farfel defenders, do think one thing one day and the same thing the next....regardless of evidence to the contrary.

This is an inevitable part being subhuman and of not seeking truth. Your own obvious enjoyment in wallowing in honesty and facts is pleasant to behold. And it is whining by me to constantly assert, on such and such a day, you said so and so, and...now you say blah, blah, blah...Can you please explain and prove and oh you're attacinbg my hero's again?

It can only be termed a severely limited mind that demonstrates an inability to comprehend and/or accept one of the most fundamental tenents of the human condition: Facts matter! Words matter! What one thinks in all sincerity one moment has little to so with what Spinmesitering Propagandists like *Fspot and *Puetz pretend to claim they think in all sincerity another.

Without going into too much detail, a myriad of changes are constantly swirling around in each of our own personal environments, and to some extent they cannot help but define and redefine our all-too-human existence. But then, most of us understand what Robert de Niro's character in the movie The Deerhunter said to another whining weakling: That was then! This is now! Of course in the case of my failed Guru's, such intellectual honesty doesn't exist.

Why not consider working up some stronger material? Like the posts I always make on my own market perspective? Ooops, I forgot...I never make any..just parrot what my Guru's and liberal Govt. daddies say.

You may recall ( if it was not before your time ) what Walter Pirsig says in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, The real motorcycle you're working on is the cycle you call yourself.

Think about it! I don't!

*******WARNING*******
These observations will be reposted as a reminder to REALISTIC to ignore the demented ramblings of PH, whenever one of his nuisance posts is observed.

PS. REALISTIC: Don't be too dis heartened by anything LGB says. He doesn't seem to be able to recognize an intelligent comment from me when he sees one. Ooops, maybe he never HAS seen one!

PH in LA

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 11:18
Realistic (@farfel) ID#410194:
Copyright © 1998 Realistic/Kitco Inc. All rights reserved
Don't forget to answer my question of the other day when you get a chance, thanks.

Bonds reached yet another all-times high today. ( Dec bonds above 132.00!!! )

8 months ago, bonds were around 118.00.

People who invested in bonds around March and April of this year, have been part of one of the most amazing bull market of the board this year.

What are your friends thinking of this huge move Farfel?

Date: Tue Mar 03 1998 22:03
farfel ( @DONALD...YOU SAY DEFLATION, FRIEDMAN SAYS INFLATION, AND I SAY... ) ID#28585:
NEO-STAGFLATION....

I warned many friends to avoid this Wall Street propagandistic manipulation...in fact, I went down on my knees with some of them and BEGGED THEM not to place any monies in bonds. I categorically predicted the current bearish scenario now unfolding in the bond market; it will only exacerbate as the TORRENT of newly printed money ( printed in the aftermath of the October crash in order to maintain liquidity ) begins to hammer bonds even further over the short-term..

Date: Mon Oct 05 1998 02:41
Jack (Where's the General Patton of the Gold Bugs) ID#254288:

The troops miss'ya you kantankerous old fart.

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