Silverbaron: Thanks again -- I will be reading and puzzling for some time I think!

To interrupt the discussion, on October 5 the dollar closed at 134.5 yen and 1.634 Dmarks. Two days later, it was 120.4 yen ( -14.1, -10.5% ) and 1.616 Dmarks ( -.018, -1.1% ) . Two days later it was 116 yen and 1.636 Dmarks. In reality, the yen went up, not the dollar down. RJ is correct. Gold is down because the dollar is up.

In January, 1991, gold dropped from 403 to 373 ( -7.5% ) in one day at the beginning of the Desert Storm bombing. That might tell us something. There was a flight to the dollar and gold cratered.

RJ -- I must admit you are probably right that gold will probably not budge if we pound some sand in Iraq looking for those unlocated underground sites. Do you still think gold is on its way, or are we about to have a bearish surprise before the next rally? I'm just about to bail out with my profits, and jump in on the next gold equity bottom. Any insight would be appreciated.

One word of warning, though, what you read is probably incomplete and misleading -- but there is important information there for those who are patient enough to wade through it. I am still learning this approach to Web surfing -- where information/noise content can be very low -- per site. I am used to nearly 100% S/N ratio in the Physics literature.

But on the other hand the WebSurfing has been very rewarding -- with Kitco being one of the discoveries.

I am still heavily invested in defense and gold stocks -- I was thinking things would go up for another week at least -- I figure the longer I hang in there, the better chance I have of catching the wave. But I don't want to get caught in Ping III either!

I think the wild card is Kenneth Starr's testimony beginning around Nov 17. I think that is the last thing the Dems would want, as he could talk about opinions, not facts -- for the first time. And -- he will be under oath -- and much more likely to tell the truth than anyone from the Whitehouse. It is so easy to forget that much of our market rally has been during a time when impeachment activity was intentionally played down. WJC may be underestimating what he is up against -- IMHO.

Happy market surfing!

On a quick scan, I can tell you I have James Clerk Maxwell's original two volumes on Electromagetism, and E.T. Whittaker's two articles on a 'scalar' formulation of same. These two fellows as you undoubtedly know are very well respected members of the Physics community - -though deceased. Their work does indeed suggest forgotten paths of future research, though probably not as dramatic as R. Hoagland or Tom Bearden would have you believe.

Richard Hoagland is correct that there is much to be said about Hyperdimensional physics, and Michio Okakku is a legitimate Physicist who knows about such things. Michio Okakku has said -- IHMO -- as I recall -- that time travel and interdimensional travel is possible, provided that you had a civilization that could finely manipulate energy at a 100x or 1000x higher level than we do now. Currently we have the raw energy release, say in a nuclear explosion -- but he is referring to moulding that energy in a constructive manner. Imagine a time travelling spacecraft that requirs 10 kiltons of nuclear energy for every second of its flight. No -- I am not talking about project Orion. I would guess at the minimum that we would also need computers with millions of times the computing capacity of our current ones -- to virtually manipulate atoms.

I do not find Richard Hoagland, or Tom Bearden anywhere as easy to understand as the others I have listed above. Tom Bearden as I recall is a former US Government information officer, and is undoubtedly a master at disinformation. I have read much of Tom Bearden's work initially with much interest, until I realized that there were big holes in his logic. The same with Richard Hoagland.

On the positive side, I suspect that both Richard Hoagland and Tom Bearden know something from their work for the US Government, and are not allowed to disclose it ( or they do not understand it in its entirety ) .

Hence they behave as if they know something is true -- some new and wonderful phenomenon -- but their explanations of the phenomena are wanting. Just as if they were trying to 'reverse engineer' something they knew about -- but not enough to explain coherently to a physicist. Or to reproduce it. I have yet to see a working model of one of Tom Bearden's theoretical devices. The Overunity motors -- Wankel, and Takahashi -- probably do work -- but these are not his inventions.

Another pattern I see in what Richard Hoagland has done is put together a patchwork of possibly related bits of information and build a story about hyperdimensional physics -- based on what he perceives hyperdimensional physics is. By the way -- the bit about Jupiter releasing more energy than it gets from the Sun -- may not be that exciting at all -- it is thought to be a failed star. But in defense of Richard Hoagland, if there is a hyperdimensional physics, it is entirely likely that the Sun ( and Jupiter ) have a source of energy that is not local in the classical sense -- that the Solar furnace is not what we think it is. How would we know? We can't easily do measurements inside the Sun -- except possibly with Neutrinos.

So -- I take what I see on this site - with a grain of salt. But -- I will continue to peruse this site and others like it for pieces of a story that I hope to understand one day myself!

Hope everyone enjoys this. The Universe is a wilder place than we can ever imagine ( plagiarizing Shakespeare ) !

Well said Sir.......

Long has man travellled in the realms of gold.

Nature herself makes it clear that the production of gold is laborious, the guarding of it difficult, the zest for it very great, and its use balanced between pleasure and pain. Diodorus Sirculus, first century BC

It is a fine line between success and failure, GOLD presently treads that line, but it cannot fail !

Gold is the most equisite of all things....whoever possesses gold can acquire all that he desires in this world. Truely, for gold can he gain entrance for his soul into paradise. Christopher Columbus, 1500.

Haggis

And crisis over. He makes a profit -- at our expense.

Would be nice to believe that this is all he is up to. I have a sneaking suspicion that he has a martyr complex -- for the 'Arab cause'. With real focus on Israel if we slip up and do something silly. The last thing we can afford to do is make it look to the outside world like he is the underdog, and we are the aggressor. We should never forget that he is better at manipulating us than we are at manipulating him in a prolonged confrontation. I'm not so sure he is that 'easy' enemy we say he is. An enemy need not be as strong we are -- it just needs to be able to strike at a weak point -- or in an unexpected manner.

On a more serious basis -- any idea why Oil's been going down recently if we are about to pound some sand in Iraq? As someone just said today, Saddam's soldiers have had over 7 years to spread out -- could be some are in the US. Would be interesting to see what WJC would do if Saddam tried the nuclear blackmail gambit -- don't think I'd really want to find out. Saddam certainly can't entrap WJC with the Mata Hari approach, or the movies of a compromising position, can he? I think Kenneth Starr has all the evidence already!

Hope you are enjoying your Veteran's day holiday.

and, LAST BUT MOST IMPORTANT: snap up the cheap shares!!! ( buying

all he can, as they are available at 4R.... per PB's site ) .. thanks Mozel, for that 144A

piece of this SORDID puzzle. Would someone tell Mr Kebble that you

reap what you sow.

Please don't discourage Cyclist from posting his inputs since they are relative to daytime activity and I appreciate another opinion of what happening from a very short term aspect of the market. I find it possible to see the market in gold stocks fluctuate during the day as the XAU, TSE, JSE, London and COMEX gold prices all change with the news. Some stocks don't change much but have huge volumes, while some change quickly with very little volume. Watching ABX, PDG, BMG, HM, and NEM bounce around and bid/ask prices change allows the flexible investor to take advantages of opportunities if he has a good feel for the market. One thing I've learned is not to fight the XAU trend because it drives most others eventually. Come on in, the water's fine.

Go Gold.

http://www.fayettevillenc.com/foto/backyard/astr0526.htm

What really worries me is that there are several big dominoes that could fall, and push gold/gold stocks down in a hurry. The question is when. At other times, gold and inparticular gold stocks will be a good buy -- although undoubtedly a roller coaster ride.

ftp://ftp.kitcomm.com/pub/discussion/Enforce.gif

L. Neil Smith: http://www.webleyweb.com/lneil/index.html

At 22:00 hours PST in the Silver State.

Got Silver?

Danny’s aunt and guardian says that she has recently been visited by people identifying themselves as FBI agents, and has suffered a pattern of harassment from the Little Rock police. She alleges the police even killed her dog.

---

At least the boy is still alive.